| Need vs. Greed : Part I |
he devil has begun to quote the
scriptures.
Indian Hockey Federation (IHF) vice-president M. S. Balakrishnan told
PTI that Olympian Mukesh Kumar "had not obtained permission from Indian Airlines (IA)
or IHF for playing in the Malaysian league. The IA management has not taken to this kindly
as greed is getting the better of such players."
That opened a Pandora's box for federation officials. K. Jyothikumaran,
secretary of the IHF wrote to the Malaysian Hockey Federation (MHF) and forced the recall
of both Mukesh and his brother and defender Suresh Kumar. Satyanarayana,
secretary of the Hyderabad Hockey Association told reporters that action would be taken
against Mukesh Kumar's brother Suresh Kumar for playing in the MHL.
A willing partner in their crime was yet another official, MHF secretary S.
Satgunan. He himself had 'taken action' against 10 Malaysians who were playing in
Singapore by quoting from his version of the Hockey Officials Bible, "there is a
ruling that forbids Malaysians from playing in leagues outside the country without the
approval of the MHF. We will take action against those who flout this rule."
Inspiring words indeed.
That's the difference in mindset between hockey officials (whose main job is to shuffle
files from one table to another) and corporate houses like Tatas and Mahindras. Contrast
the above scenario with Dhanraj Pillai's statement, "Mahindras have given me full
freedom to play overseas or at home for whatever club I choose." Dhanraj recently
toured Europe, playing club hockey in the Netherlands.
In any other profession, people switch jobs for better financial prospects. In any
other professional sport anywhere in the world, players join clubs based on better
financial remuneration.
Seong Tae Song, the top scorer of the 1999 Champions Trophy held in
June in Brisbane, is representing a club in the German Hockey League. There are no
brain-dead officials in Seoul crying hoarse that he should deliver an apology because he
is not representing South Korea in the 4-Nation Tournament in Australia.
Australian leg-spinner Shane Warne has signed a 1 year
contract with the English county team Hampshire for 150,000 pounds (about
Rs 1.05 crore). This is the highest fee in the history of English county
cricket. However, when Mukesh Kumar signs just a 8-week contract to play
in Malaysia (September 4 - October 24), he is forced by the federation to come back.
Using the same yardstick as applicable to players, master bureaucrat Balakrishnan,
secretary of the Indian Airlines Sports Control Board, has decided to set a personal
example and will not take salary raises for the rest of his career. This was because greed
was getting better than him.
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| Need vs. Greed : Part II |
here is money to be made in
Indian sports, provided the sport is not hockey. We take 3 examples from 3 different
sports to prove the point.
Mahesh Bhupathi and Leander Paes shared $165,000 for coming runners up
in the US Open doubles. Mahesh Bhupathi and Sugiyama shared $124,000 for
winning the US Open mixed doubles. In 1999, Mahesh and Leander have each won more than half
a million dollars.
Their itinerary for the remainder of this year includes the Shanghai Open, tournaments
in Paris and Stuttgart and the World Doubles Championships in Hartford, Connecticut. There
are no tennis federation officials lecturing them on the need to avoid foreign junkets and
play more tournaments in India.
The Wills Sports Golf Tour has sponsored the Indian domestic circuit for this year. The
tour will disburse Rs. 2 crores of prize money spread over 24
tournaments. Golf has thus become a lucrative profession for the top Indian players. A
case in point - Vijay Kumar of Lucknow, who has earned Rs. 35 lakhs in
prize money over the last 2 years - Rs. 19 lakhs in 1999 and Rs.
16 lakhs in 1998.
When football star Baichung Bhutia got a contract with a Division II
football team in England, it was hailed as a milestone in Indian football. A news clip was
shown on BBC featuring Bhutia as the first Indian-born footballer to play professional
football in England. Luckily, there were no pig-headed football federation officials
forcing Bhutia to come back to India and play in the South Asian Federation Games.
There can be money in Indian hockey too, provided we don't have blessed bureaurcats
like Balakrishnan and his ilk lecturing Olympians on greed getting better than
them.
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| India Last
in Two 4-Nation Tournaments (Australia) |
double-leg 4-Nation tournament
was held in Canberra and Sydney from September 16 - 26. Teams competing were Oceania
champions Australia, Asian champions India, Pan American champions Canada and Asia Cup
holders South Korea.
The Sydney leg was staged at Homebush stadium, which has been refurbished for the
Olympics at a cost of A$ 15.5 million. The seating capacity has been enhanced to 15,000.
The project was completed as early as August 1998 itself. The media centre can accommodate
as many as 100 pressmen and women at a time.
The results of the matches of the Australian tour were:
| Canberra
Leg |
| Sep 16 |
Korea beat India 6-1 |
Baljit Singh Chandi |
| Sep 17 |
Canada beat India 2-1 |
Sameer Dad |
| Sep 19 |
Australia beat India 3-1 |
Sameer Dad |
| Sydney
Leg |
| Sep 22 |
India beat Canada 3-2 |
Anwar Khan
Deepak Thakur
Gagan Ajit Singh |
| Sep 23 |
Australia beat India 5-3 |
Deepak Thakur (2)
Mohammed Riaz |
| Sep 25 |
Korea drew with India 0-0 |
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| Classification |
| Sep 26 |
Canada beat India 5-3 |
Deepak Thakur (2)
Dilip Tirkey |
Australia retained the victorious champions trophy squad of Brisbane,
while India disbanded the team and coach of the victorious Asian Games squad of Bangkok.
Expectedly, Australia won the Sydney leg of the tournament, while India came last in both
legs of the 4-Nation tournament.
The Australian women's team, which signed yet another sponsorship deal, this time with
sportswear company Mizuno, trounced USA 4-0 to win the women's final. Mrs. Janet Howard,
wife of the Prime Minister, John Howard, presented the gold medal to the Australian
women's team. Other countries that participated in the women's event were China and Spain.
India had only 1 victory in the 7 matches of the double leg
tournament. India scored only 12 goals in 7 matches, while conceding as
many as 23 goals. The need for the recall of Dhanraj, Mukesh and Sabu in
the forward line is obvious, while the recall of seasoned goalkeepers Ballal and Subbaiah
is critical for India.
In their buildup to the Olympics, India has so far lost a test series to Germany, a
test series to minnows South Africa, and has come last in both legs of the Australian
4-Nation tournaments. Yet, stubborn K. P. S. Gill is refusing to let better sense prevail
for the sake of Indian hockey. He has ruled out any major shakeup in the side for the
Olympic campaign.
''I think there is no reason to despair. We've never done anything great after our 5th
place in the 1994 Sydney World Cup. Only juniors have done something and many of them are
in this team. In contrast, the senior team did poorly in so many tournaments including the
World Cup last year in Utrecht," he said.
Oil and Natural Gas Commission (ONGC) sponsored the Indian team's trip to Australia.
The corporate house will be a major supporter in the Olympic campaign.
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| India 'B'
Team's African Tour |
n India 'B' team had a 3-country
African tour, playing matches in Zimbabwe, Kenya and Uganda.
In the 3-test series against Zimbabwe, India 'B' won the series 1-0. The visitors drew
1-1 in the first test, won the next 4-1, before playing out a goalless draw in the third.
This was followed by a 3-Nation tournament at the City Park Stadium, Nairobi, Kenya
from August 31 - September 5. This tournament was held to celebrate the golden jubilee of
the Kenya Hockey Union. The 4 teams in this tournament comprised an alphabet soup of India
'B', Kenya 'A', Kenya 'B' and Egypt. Kenya 'B' had to step in after Ghana withdrew from
the event citing shortage of funds. The results were:
| Date |
Result |
Scorers - India |
| Sep 1 |
India 3 - Egypt 3 |
Parminder Singh (2)
Ajay Kumar - 2 goals |
| Sep 2 |
India 2 - Kenya 'A' 1 |
Senthil (2)
Y. S. Rawat (52) |
| Sep 4 |
India 4 - Kenya 'B' 1 |
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In the final of the 3-Nation tournament, India were level 1-1 with Egypt
in regulation and golden goal extra time before losing 3-4 on penalties in the
tie-breaker.
The Indian team ended their African tour with a 2-test series against Uganda. India 'B'
won both matches 6-0. India last visited Uganda 30 years ago. The players and officials
stayed in different homes during their stay in Uganda to mingle among the hockey
fraterninty instead of the usual five-star accomodation.
Indian coach and former India forward Balwinder Singh picked out talented forward
Parminder Singh as the find of the tour. Parminder accounted for 7 of India's 26 goals in
the 9 matches played in the African tour.
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| India In Two Minds About Asia Cup |
efore the Kargil war between the
subcontinent rivals, Pakistan were scheduled to take part in a 6-nation tournament in
Chandigarh in October. Later in November, the Indians were supposed to visit Lahore to
take part in the Asia Cup.
The Chandigarh tournament has been cancelled and India may not take part in the Asia
Cup if it is held at Lahore.
IHF president K. P. S. Gill has asked for tighter security assurances from the Pakistan
Hockey Federation, the Asian Hockey Federation (AHF) and the International Hockey
Federation (FIH) before he could confirm India's participation.
Gill said, "We have sought from the AHF to postpone the tournament until we are
able to play in Pakistan. The other alternative is to hold the tournament elsewhere. We
are also awaiting the clearance from our government regarding our participation in the
tournament."
If India stays away from the Lahore tournament, it would lose the right to take part in
the 2001 World Cup qualifiers, and thus the World Cup the following year. In addition, it
will also not be eligible to take part in the 2004 Olympic qualifiers as well.
Singapore is the standby team to replace India in the event of a pull out.
Cricketing ties between India and Pakistan are already suspended. The annual Sahara Cup
cricket series between the two countries in Toronto was called off after India refused to
play following Pakistan's intrusion in Kargil.
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| Tatas / ONGC Bail Out Cash-Starved
IHF |
he Taj Group of Hotels
and Tata Tea have signed a Rs. 10 lakh sponsorship deal
with the IHF in its 'Go for Gold' campaign for enhancing medal hopes at
the Sydney Olympics, as well as for funding the IHF's junior development programme.
ONGC also has promised a total sponsorship of Rs. 50 lakhs,
of which they gave a Rs. 5 lakh cheque to IHF President K. P. S. Gill.
The managing director and vice-chairman of the Taj Group, R. K. Krishna Kumar, has
promised further help to groom about 150 juniors.
Within the past year, the Tatas have sponsored Indian hockey to the tune of Rs.
70 lakhs! It started with a Rs. 15 lakhs sponsorship for the
Asian Games gold medal winning team. The team's stay in Chennai prior to the games, and
their stay in Delhi after their triumphant return, were both in the Taj Group of hotels.
This was followed by co-sponsorship of the 1999 Indo-Pakistan Hockey Series, for which
Taj and Tata Tea gave the IHF Rs 15 lakhs. Pepsi was the other co-sponsor
for the Indian leg of the series.
In keeping with their promise of investing in junior development, Tatas sponsored the
30th Junior National Hockey Championship held in June of this year. The sponsorship amount
of Rs. 30 lakhs went into the organisational expenses for the 32-team
championship. The Tatas gave all the participants track suits, caps, T-Shirts, tote bags
and pouches. Teams reaching the semi-finals were given watches.
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| Money Matters |
P. S. Gill has defaulted on
payments yet again. Indian women's team captain Pritam Rani Siwach is unhappy with IHF
chief Gill for not fulfilling his promise to pay Rs. 10,000 to each
player of the women's team for winning the silver medal at the Bangkok Asian Games in
December.
Gill should learn from the following who kept their promise (made at the same
felicitation ceremony) and paid the women's team members: IWHF - Rs. 10,000
each to the players, and Delhi Chief Minister Smt. Sheila Dikshit - matching grant of Rs.
10,000 each to the players.
Pritam said, "Sheila madam has fulfilled her promise and we have received the
money, but we have not heard anything from Mr Gill. Though we can't claim it as a right,
we feel cheated."
As former coach Cedric D'Souza pointed out in his illuminating article for Rediff, entitled Promises and
Lies:
"In 1994, after the Sydney World Cup, it was decided that the Indian players
would get Rs. 25,000 for 1st place, Rs. 20,000 for 2nd
place, Rs. 15,000 for 3rd place and Rs. 10,000 for 4th
place. Gill did not pay anything.
Just prior to the 1999 Indo- Pak series, Gill agreed to pay the players Rs.
20,000 every quarter. Let us get our facts straight, the players received this
money only once.
The actual money dished out by IHF over the past 5 years is as follows:
| Year |
Amount |
Event |
| 1994 |
Rs. 25,000 |
Prior to Asian Games - Hiroshima |
| 1994 |
Rs. 25,000 |
Prior to World Cup - Sydney |
| 1998 |
Rs. 1 lakh each |
After the Asian Games gold |
| 1999 |
Rs. 20,000 |
Prior to Indo-Pak Hockey Series |
The moral of the story: promises once made must be kept. Rewards and recognition
must be given when it is due. It is only teams which strike a good balance between
national pride, sound structuring of the game and healthy remuneration that perform
consistently at the international level."
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| Media Matters |
he ONGC Indian Hockey
Year Book, a compilation of the activities on and off the field in the last one
year, was released in Delhi by V. N. Narayanan, Editor, The Hindustan Times, at a
simple function held on September 2.
The book has been authored by Shanthi K Arumugam, who started the
practice in 1995. The highlight of the book is that it comprises all the events and
tournaments with their analysis. The articles and write-ups are well supported by
statistics.
Profiles of current and former players can also be seen in abundance. A critical
analysis of the current hockey scene may give some awkward moments to officials of the
Indian Hockey Federation.
The ONGC-Hockey Year Book awards were also given to four players. Dilip Tirkey
and Pritam Rani Siwach for 1998 and Lazarus Barla and Manjinder
Kaur for 1997. ONGC gave a cash prize of Rs. 5000 to each of the award winners.
The first copy of the book was presented to Arjuna Puraskar winner and coach of the
Bangkok Asian Games gold medal winning Indian hockey squad, Maharaj Krishan Kaushik.
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| Germany book tickets to Sydney |
he toughest
men's continental championship in the world - the 8th European Nations Cup, took place
from September 1 to 22 in Padova, Italy. As with the women's European Nations Cup which
concluded last month in Germany, the grand prize was qualification for the Sydney
Olympics.
The results of the pool matches were as follows:
| Pool A |
Netherlands |
England |
| Sep 1 |
beat Poland 4-1 |
beat Russia 7-1 |
| Sep 2 |
beat Ireland 5-0 |
beat France 4-1 |
| Sep 4 |
beat Russia 6-1 |
beat Ireland 3-0 |
| Sep 6 |
beat France 4-0 |
beat Poland 3-0 |
| Sep 7 |
drew with England 3-3 |
drew with Netherlands 3-3 |
| Pool B |
Germany |
Belgium |
| Sep 1 |
beat Italy 6-0 |
|
| Sep 2 |
|
beat Spain 5-3 |
| Sep 3 |
drew with Spain 0-0 |
beat Wales 1-0 |
| Sep 5 |
beat Switzerland 5-2 |
beat Italy 3-2 |
| Sep 6 |
beat Belgium 6-2 |
lost to Germany 2-6 |
| Sep 8 |
beat Wales 6-1 |
beat Switzerland 5-3 |
In a repeat of the 1995 Europeans Cup in Dublin, Germany, Netherlands,
England and Belgium were the four semi-finalists. In one-sided semi-finals, Netherlands
drubbed Belgium 7-1, while Germany beat England 4-0.
In the final, Germany retained the title winning 5-4 on strokes, after a 3-3 draw in
regulation time. It took 85 minutes of playing time and 14 penalty strokes
before Sascha Reinelt rattled in the winner for Germany. England beat Belgium 7-2 to claim
the bronze.
This is the 5th European championship for the German team and the third consecutive
one. In Paris (1991) and Dublin (1995), Germany had also won the title, beating
Netherlands both times in the final.
Barcelona will host the European Championships in 2003. Both the men's
and the women's tournament will be played in September of that year in a new stadium at
Montjuich.
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| South Africa Men and Women book
tickets to Sydney |
he 7th All
Africa Games was held from September 9 - 18 at the Randburg Stadium in Johannesburg. 49
nations of Africa competed in the games. In the hockey competition, 6 men's teams and 4
women's teams took part. Nigeria had to drop out of both the men's and women's competition
due to financial cutbacks.
South Africa swept both the men's and women's hockey gold to ensure their passage to
Sydney. Their respective roads to the championship were as follows:
| Date |
Men |
Women |
| Sep 9 |
beat Ghana 8-1 |
|
| Sep 11 |
beat Zimbabwe 6-0 |
|
| Sep 12 |
|
beat Namibia 7-0 |
| Sep 15 |
beat Kenya 3-0 |
beat Kenya 5-1 |
| Sep 17 |
beat Malawi 14-0 |
beat Zimbabwe 9-0 |
| Sep 18 |
beat Egypt 4-0 |
beat Zimbabwe 8-0 |
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| Fun With Numbers |
his month's edition is devoted
to winning and losing streaks.
New Zealand women have not beaten Australia for 20 years over 33 test
matches. The last time New Zealand beat Australia was a 3-1 victory way back in June 1979
in Hamilton.
In men's hockey, Ireland has gone 50 years without beating England,
while Poland has not beaten Netherlands in 24 years. The Poles' only
victory against Netherlands was recorded in 1975.
When Canada whitewashed Australia 4-0 in the 4-Nations Cup, it was their first ever
victory over Australia. The two sides had played 15 times earlier,
without Canada recording a single victory.
Australia is ranked first in the world having won the Champions Trophy Tournament in
Brisbane in June this year. Canada has never played in the Champions Trophy.
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| Orissa Clinch
Junior Nationals Title (Women) |
he Bank of Baroda 31st Junior
National Championship took place at the Mahindra Stadium in Mumbai from September 22 - 30.
Former Punjab DGP Jules Ribeiro, the chief guest, declared the games open after 15
colourful teams had lined up for a swearing in ceremony. Mumbai Police's band showed they
were in touch with the times, serving up a cocktail of Ricky Martin Latino and Veer
Savarkar bhajans.
There were a few no-shows at the junior nationals. Mizoram did not
turn up, leaving only 2 teams in Pool G. Similary, the Rajasthan team
also played truant, leaving only 2 teams in Pool C. Himachal Pradesh was
another team not to show up, making Pool A a 2-team affair.
Haryana and Orissa were the two finalists. Their respective roads to the finals were as
follows:
| Stage |
Date |
Haryana |
Orissa |
| League |
Sep 24 |
|
beat Andhra Pradesh 6-0 |
| |
Sep 26 |
beat PEPSU 5-0 |
|
| Quarters |
Sep 27 |
beat Bihar |
beat Manipur |
| Semis |
Sep 29 |
beat Karnataka 3-0 |
beat Chandigarh 4-1 |
In the final, underdogs Orissa dethroned defending champions Haryana 3-2
to win the 31st Junior National Championship.
Orissa began in whirlwind fashion and were two goals to the good within 18 minutes of
play. Touched to the quick, Haryana fought back and reduced the margin five minutes from
the interval. Orissa made it 3-1 in the 42nd minute and Haryana pulled another goal back
in the 61st minute. Orissa then held on grimly as the minutes ticked away.
Earlier, Karnataka trounced fancied Chandigarh 4-0 to claim the Hardlines Trophy.
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| Visitor of the Month |
hockey commentator from New
Zealand is this edition's Visitor of the Month. Brendon
Ward, who is a Project Manager with New Zealand Water Safety, writes:
I do the hockey commentary for Saturn Television in Wellington,
New Zealand. Saturn is a communications company which offers TV, Phone and Internet
options. Sports Net, one of the Saturn TV channels, is presently a Wellington cable TV
channel.
Saturn is currently not live (i.e., games are taped, edited and shown later). One
of the 3 tests between India and New Zealand women was shown on Saturn. The Indian team
coach was given an unedited copy of the tape after the game.
We are also covering the final of the Wellington Regional schoolboys and schoolgirls
competition, as well as the final round of the Premier 1 mens competition.
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| Europe a Mecca for Foreign Players |
ndia u-21 players Prabhjot
Singh and Devesh Chauhan have signed to play for Indian Gymkhana
in Division I of the English Hockey League. They are part of at least 16
foreign players, from 6 countries, that play in the men's National Hockey
League. The list is as follows:
| Division |
Team |
Player |
Country |
| Premier (Men) |
Canterbury |
Brian Garcia
Kwan Browne |
Trinidad & Tobago
Trinidad & Tobago |
| |
Old Loughtonians |
Andy Griffiths
Hari Kant
Scott Smith |
Canada
Canada
Canada |
| |
Southgate |
Grant Smith |
Australia |
| |
St. Albans |
Craig Keegan |
Australia |
| |
Surbiton |
Craig Jackson
Greg Nicol
Gregg Clark |
South Africa
South Africa
South Africa |
| Division I |
Chelmsford |
Craig Fulton |
South Africa |
| |
Indian Gymkhana |
Devesh Chauhan
Prabhjot Singh |
India
India |
| |
Lewes |
Ed Cabay
Nicolas Dupont |
Belgium
Belgium |
Asia's best known hockey stars, Sohail Abbas of
Pakistan and Dhanraj Pillai of India, have contracted to play in Holland.
Sohail, who would be playing for Amsterdam, will temporarily stay in Holland for one
month, and return once a 3 - 5 year residence permit is obtained.
Dhanraj has been offered a 6-month contract to play for the Dutch team Klein
Zwitserland. The chairman of Klein Club, hockey legend Ties Kruize, offered the contract
to Dhanraj for the second half of the Dutch hockey season (till February 2000).
Foreign hockey professionals in the Dutch league earn around Rs. 6 lakh per season, and
get other perks including a car.
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| How to Create a Sports League -
Malaysia |
he Malaysian Hockey League (MHL)
is Asia's only national hockey league. The 1999 edition of the MHL will be played among 8
teams, with each team having to play 14 matches on a home-and-away basis. The top four
teams will play in a crossover semi-finals for the overall title. The 1999 MHL began on
September 4 and will end on October 24.
League History : The MHL has had a rollercoaster life. The league
began in 1987, had a record number of 16 teams in 1997, was scrapped in 1998, and now it
has sprung back to life, at half-strength, with 8 teams in 1999.
The inaugural MHL championship was won by Tenaga Nasional. Teams who have won a hat
trick of MHL titles are Tenaga Nasional (1987, 1989, 1991) and Maybank (1988, 1990, 1994).
Other winners in this decade include MBf (1992), Yayasan Negri Sembilan (YNS) in 1995 and
1996, and Petaling Jaya Municipal Council (1997).
Money Matters : The total prize money at stake in the 1999 MHL is RM
122,500. The winner gets RM 40,000 and the runners-up pockets RM 25,000. The champion at
the league stage wins RM 20,000 while the runners-up at the league stage gets RM 10,000.
The MHF also presents the MHL Fairplay Trophy, which comes with a cash prize of RM 5,000.
The home team has to make its own arrangements for ball boys and medical personnel for
each game. The MHF can undertake that repsonsibility, but then the home team has to pick
up the tab.
1999 Teams : 3-time champions Tenaga Nasional, 1995 and 1996 champions
Yayasan Negri Sembilan (YNS) and Bank Simpanan Nasional (BSN) with 10 national players,
start as favourites in the 1999 edition of the MHL. Other sides completing the 8-team
field are Maybank, Jansenites, combined Armed Forces team, Kuala Langat and Malacca
Municipal Council. At the halfway stay of the MHL, Bank Simpanan Nasional and Tenaga
Nasional remain the only unbeaten teams.
Singapore Premier League champions Jansenites are the first foreign team to take part
in the MHL. YNS is the only team to have foreign players - brothers Mukesh Kumar and
Suresh Kumar of India. Both were called back due to short-sighted officials back home in
India.
Match Venues : The 1999 MHL will be played on 5 venues - National
Hockey Stadium (Bukit Jalil), Tun Razak Stadium (Kuala Lumpur), Bukit Serendit Stadium
(Malacca), Pandamanan Stadium (Klang) and Seremban Hockey Stadium.
What's At Stake : The 42 players from the national pool, as well as
former international players are taking part in the league. Added to these are the top
junior talent of Malaysia.
The performance of the national players will be closely watched by the selectors. A
good showing by the seniors will count towards keeping their place in the national team,
while for the juniors, it would mean promotion to the senior squad. MHF secretary S.
Satgunam has clearly stated that the MHL was an integral part of the development plans of
the Malaysian Hockey Federation.
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| Birthdays This Month |
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| Tailpiece |
erry Walsh, coach of the #1 team
in the world - Australia, has the following message for Indian hockey:
"From world hockeys perspective it is very important that Indian hockey
gets its act together and becomes a competitive team at the very highest level of
international hockey. When I look at what they have, I think they have the talent to do
that quite comfortably.
They have to figure out how they are going to sort out their internal workings, and
they need to do that quite strongly. World hockey cannot continue to have such a world
power languishing."
Are you listening, Mr. K. P. S. Gill?
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